Home Lock Picking for Beginners (859) DIY Training Locks

(859) DIY Training Locks

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My vises are made by Panavise, a U.S. Company.  The one with the wide jaws is the model 350.  The smaller one is the model 301. Both have the 312 Base mount – www.panavise.com

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    1. Lowes carries the 6-32 set screws and the Tap, and should also have the metric screws and taps. The taps come in starter tap and in bottom tap versions. It looks like Bosnian Bill is using the Starter version.

  1. My issue is where I live. I live in Shawnee Ok. and theres NOTHING here. Thank God they are putting in a Harbor Freight near me. Its almost done. Its hard for me to get stuff. But Im getting there.

  2. I made a couple of different training locks when I started, but I also bought the LearnLockPicking’s Ultimate Adversary Challenge lock. I am able to build many different combinations of pinning now. Just need a few more with radical key ways to work on.

  3. Whatever fits. Some of these tiny pin locks would be better served using a 3mm, 3.5mm (specialty) or 5-48 (specialty) or 4-40. I use metric on almost all my amplifier & radio builds, now. I would advise buying the good springs with a nice taper with 2 or 3 or 4 tight twists in the tapered ends. Those el-cheapo screws will jam between the pin and the cylinder, and jam up the whole lock. Then you have to drive the pins out & take the lock apart & hope it is not ruined worse than it was when we started.

    1. I mean to say the el-cheapo “springs”, not “screws”. The cheap non tapered, or poorly tapered springs have jammed between the cylinders in the bible and the pins. They have really jammed up some locks on me, but good. American Lock used those to rekey some Kwiksets & those had a few missing pins now, due to cheap springs jamming up the locks. I bought better springs & redid all the locks.

  4. I’ve made a couple of these, that I still use. Some advice I have is to only screw the grubs screws in a tiny bit. If not it will make the pins hard to pick if you’re using the longer driver pins. Also if you have something sharp and thin you can wedge under the plate on bible and then roll it off. It looks much leaner that way. 8-32 fits a little more snug IMO

  5. The plugged holes on my Euro cylinders are no more than 3mm in diameter, so wouldn’t an M4 tap be too big? There is precious little material between the chambers as it is.

    1. If that is what will work better, absolutely. They are hard to find, but there are also 3.5mm screws called “second choice” by the ISO standards of engineering. You can get them, just like you can get 5-32s, or 3-48s. They are out there, but they are not a standard Home Cheapo or Lowelifes, or other basic hardware store stocked item. Someone sells them, so you don’t need to make them with a gimlet or screw lathe. Those are quasi standard sizes, so long as you don’t want some oddball thread pitch.

    2. You can get a 6/32 threadflo tap into the euro cylinders, rather than cut a thread it raises it.
      6/32 screws are slightly less than 3.5mm dia. and you have to put a 3mm drill back through afterwards so the pins will fit through, the thread’s not great but it holds the screws, 1/4 or 5/16 length work better.

  6. Training locks on a budget, that is a great idea. One tip, always turn a screw or bolt backwards until you feel the threads engage then screw in. You do that and you will never cross-thread.

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